For years, I’ve received emails that have capital ‘J’s thrown in at the end of seemingly random sentences. It’s never been a big deal, but it has always baffled me.
For example, I just received an email that contained the following bit:
Ha, I didn’t mean to reply to everyone! I am glad I didn’t say anything bad. J Thank you for…
What in the world is that J doing there?
I’ve speculated all this time of what people could mean. At first, I thought that it was a short for “I’m joking,” but it would only sometimes make sense in that context. The other odd thing is that the J is always rendered in a different font than the rest of the text.
I would claim that this mystery has kept me up some nights, but that would be just a little bit more than a standard exaggeration.
Finally, today I stumbled upon an answer. Not only does it explain why the J would appear in contexts that would both be joking and not joking, but it also explains the odd font deal. If I had been observant or caring enough, I might have noticed another pattern, the odd appearance of J only happened when the sender sent the message from Outlook.
The simple answer to the crazy mystery of the ‘J’s is that Microsoft uses a Wingding to render a smily in Outlook. The Wingding happyface happens to be at the same position as a J in the standard ASCII sets. So, on all clients other than Outlook, it renders as an out-of-place looking J.
Yay! Another example of Microsoft not following standards. Why use the near universal understanding that ‘:’ followed by ‘)’ is a code for happyface and can be interpreted by software if desired when you can just use one of your proprietary fonts instead?
Don’t get me wrong, I’m not an anti-Microsoft zealot, I just wish that the software from Microsoft played nicer with the other children in the playground. Don’t even get me started on “smart” quotes and how many companies, not just Microsoft, have dropped the ball on that one creating an amazing nightmare for humble coders like me that have to deal with their mess.
Did I help you?
Thanks so much for the post. It was in an email sent to me by my employer and I now know how to interpret it!
I don’t get a “J” but get an “A” with a little bar over it. I use gmail. What’s going on with my “A”? I use gmail.
Without having more details, I can’t say for certain.
It is possible that it’s a different Wingding character. You can see a listing of Wingding characters and their associated letter here. For instance, if the letter is an Â, that would make it ? (an analog clock set to 12).
It is also possible that your computer doesn’t have the required language character set installed in order to display the character properly.
the A with a symbol over it is often replaced where a £ (uk pound sign) should be if the sender hasnt used a unviversal font. ( can’t remeber the exact details at the mo 🙂 ( or J depending on how you are reading htis)
i found this out when my self written web page strted to display those instead of pound signs and it looked really bad so had to research it.
thanks for clarifying the J thing – i thought it was only coming from my norweigian friends and assumed it was like ok until i spotted it in an english email.
I’m glad I found this because….I assumed I was on the outside of a “Joke” as well….
Thank you soooo much!!
What I thought was a jab at me was actually a kind gesture.
thank you so much for the Info! Now I know what that strange J means. 🙂
Ah! Thank you for the insight. A lot of my friends were complaining about the “J” characters I’ve been leaving in emails. Now I’ve switched out of Outlook and everyone reports that things are looking normal!
OMG Thank you it’s finally solved !
Good work on this. I keep getting e-mails from my real estate agent with seemingly random J’s in them. Now I know that in reality she is 13 years old.
Amazing! A good in depth investigation J 🙂
Very well done! I also used to think that it was short for “joking,” but recently started to suspect that it might be an Outlook thing since I only ever got these from business clients emailing me from their office…. J
Stupid Microsoft… I hope Apple wipes them out soon J J J
Because Apple are any better at sticking to standards?
Six years later and Apple has still not “wiped out” Microsoft. I will be back in another six years!!
This comment made my day. I’ll check in 2022 to see if you actually did. *bookmark*
Oh, and thank you for the explanation OP. J
2020 They both still here, and I just got an email with JJ, which brought me here.
At work I have to use Microsoft outlook 2007 – and have also been mystified by these occasional “J”s – always thought it was cool street-talk as they always arrive in mails from the same people. How daft, and amusing that Outlook itself can’t even consistently render it’s own silly font properly.
This has been bugging me for years. Thank you so much for figuring it out. This is yet another example of Microsoft making developers’ lives just }that{ much more difficult. J (I mean =)
Very interesting! I thought it was something like that. Thanks for the post!
Haha, that’s really odd! I almost forgot about those kind of problems! I wasn’t aware that the term “Microsoft” seems to slightly disappear from my consciousness.
Life has changed. Unlike that past, now I’m using Linux at work (at a rather large international group), Linux at home, and most of my private time for mail and the web on my mobile phone. Only when writing JavaScript code, CSS, Ajax I’m sometimes reminded that Microsoft and Internet Explorer still exist. Looks like the world has gotten a better place… 🙂 (ahhh, sorry M$, J !!!)
P.S., here is another (somewhat) fun-to-read discussion that leads to the same result: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=904511
Thank you for solving this mystery! I’m a Mac user.
Boy, I was wondering too. The random placement, the odd font. Like one of those hand gestures… is that gang sign or a friendly greeting? Feeling so e-clueless. Well, a big “J” to you, Chris Jean, and thanks.
THANK YOU!!! This has been driving me crazy!!!!
Haha! FINALLY the mystery is solved. I’m from India and ever since I moved to the US, I’ve been intrigued by the usage of ‘J’ in emails too. This post cleared it all for me 🙂
See also:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=424610
That was driving me nuts! So glad I stumbled on your answer. Thanks for posting.
Brilliant! Mystery solved. I always thought they were joking.
another huge mistery solved… thank you. 🙂
People still use email for communicating? Get with the times. Use AIM or Facebook chat. Or hell, text messages.
yep, try converting all your work emails to texts. LOL, my boss would freak!
Actually, other clients are not doing the right thing by ignoring the font type of “J”. After all, Outlook could have lefted the “:)” alone, but they went and did a favor by making that into a real smiley face. Other clients are lazy and just ignore the font type windings. I think you are pointing fingers to wrong people here. All the lazy client developers should be blamed!
Just found out that it doesn’t repro with Outlook 2010. It sends alternative MIME bodies – 1 with us ascii and another with us ascii, but HTML version, which sets the font type with CSS.
I think your off on where you assign blame. Outlook is automatically replacing a colon followed by a close parenthesis with a ‘J’ wrapped in a span that declares a style with a font-family of Wingdings. This is insanity as 1) Wingdings is only available on Windows (Microsoft has the trademark and patents on it) and 2) there is an official smiley face character in the Unicode set that could be used to allow for universal compatibility. Other applications should just use Wingdings? Okay, which Wingdings font? Wingdings, Wingdings 2, or Wingdings 3?
The only reason that the smiley issue happens in Outlook is because the Outlook team did the unthinkable. They used the horrible HTML authoring and rendering engine of Word for Outlook. So any odd quirks that Word has is inherited by Outlook, including the absurd Wingdings smiley face.
If you believe that the Outlook team is doing something right in this, you are crazy. Outlook could either use the Unicode character or automatically display the character combination as a smiley icon; however, it chooses absurdity that produces issues with every single email client out there. It’s just another example in a long line of examples of Microsoft software engineers being unable (either due to lack of care or because of enforcement from management) to create software that works with other operating systems and other developer’s applications.
Of all things, Microsoft can’t make an email client that follows standards and produces expected results. Amazing. And even more amazing, you are willing to defend them on this insanity.
Thanks SO, SO much for that information. I thought they must all be members of some secret sect!
I think I am becoming an anti-Microsoft zealot!
Thanks for the article tho’ !
I had recently learnt the meaning of ‘J’ after for years it successfully invoked feelings of bemusement, curiosity and in my case also mild annoyance and fear whenever I received mails with such J’s. Imagine poor me, whose first name starts from ‘J’.
When I used to read sentences like: “So, when are you coming to Bangalore J”, I used to think the sender is belittling my name (pun unintended)
Did I really need read all of that before you gave the answer?
I suppose not, but I wanted to write a background on my experience with it, so I did.
Thanks! This was bugging me for a while!
THANKS A LOT !!! J
Finally you solved the mystery that struggles my brain since I use Thunderbird instead of Outlook!!! J
Now I can sleep through the whole night and don’t have to worry what the J is about. J
Salute Bernhard! J 🙂
That explains it – thanks.
I wondered if it was a secret code between two other parties, when I’ve been subjected to carbon-copy.
Thankfully, they probably don’t have quite secretive intentions (or maybe they do).
Maybe this is their cover-up!
Ahh this was bugging me and I just had to google to find the answer! Now I can sleep worry free at night!
Thank you so much. J
Ah! Thank you! 🙂
Thank you!
This was bugging me for so long! J
Q: How many Microsoft engineers does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: None. They’ll redefine darkness as the standard.
Thank you so much. This has been annoying me for ages – you are a star.
My name is Jonas so I’ve always thought it was short for my name. Always in the end like “I hope you understand J”
haha 😀
hahaha beautiful job!
This has only recently just started happening to me- and only in emails. Totally didn’t get it, so thanks mehearty that’s solved it J
It also shows up if someone emails from Outlook 2010 (Windows) to Outlook 2011 (Mac). Thanks Microsoft… 🙂
I too have always wondered what this secret J could mean. Thanks for clearing up the mystery.
Ah-ha! Well the ‘mystery J’ finally got to me so I had to look it up and found your article. Thanks for the clarification!
As an aside, it seems that some of my friends/colleagues have started adopting it without proper research, which I find mildly amusing…
I had a colleague ‘J’ me on Skype the other day, and that is what eventually took me in search of “the meaning of J”.
Thanks, Chris :)ean!
Okay…that covers the J. Put I’ve also noticed an L in the odd email or too. What are those all aboot?
“L” in Wingdings is 🙁
Also, “K” is 😐
““L” in Wingdings is 🙁
Also, “K” is 😐 ”
Also, “L” is 🙁
I have to agree with Chris on the “smart” quotes… Come on MS… That character isn’t a valid XML char so we have to strip them out and replace them with real quotes…
Thankyou so much. I assumed it was a Microsoft bug, but you’ve finally cleared it up!
Thanks a lot. This troubled me a lot
In Outlook 2010, go in to File/Option/Mail
Click on Spelling and Autocorrect and then Autocorrect Options.
Scroll down to the 🙂 entry and hit delete (there are a few others there too!)
Now you smiley faces will live on as the god of ASCII intended.
Nice tip. Thanks.
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Now I see. Finally! Thank you.
As if you wouldn’t use UTF8 for emails. Geez, Microsoft.
Why do that when you could use a proprietary typeface that is only available on Windows?
Thanks Chris, just received such an email and thought must find out what that J is! Am I being left out of the loop?
Makes sense
Thanks again
Thank you so much… just goolged “J in an email” and found this… I hope it was ok I re posted on facebook
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